41 – Why bother reviewing your bank interest rate

I write constantly here about reviewing your interest rates (and insurance premiums, etc) but that’s because I’m constantly astounded by how willing large organisations are to take us all for a ride with very subtle interest rate movements and other fees.

I recently noticed the interest rate advertised online for our PPOR and line of credit were a little way from the actual interest rates we’ve been paying. I thought the interest rates on these products would keep pace with both RBA rate changes and changes to the original product but of course that’s not always the case with RBA rate and perhaps not so much the case regarding changes to the loan product.

So I contacted the bank and, after chatting with a representative from the retention department, the rate on our PPOR loan was reduced by .20% (they couldn’t move the LOC rate).

It’s worth noting the rate advertised online is for new loans and the rep I spoke with told me they can’t “match” that rate as our loan was established at a certain point in time when interest rates were likely higher (i.e. when the bank “bought” the money they lent to us). I was told we’d have to refinance to achieve the lower rate.

The rep also mentioned the interest rate isn’t adjusted automatically as the product itself changes and it’s best to review the interest rate every twelve months or so and give the bank a call if necessary—good advice.

So what does .20% actually mean to us in dollar terms, I wondered? Is it $10 per annum and hardly worth bothering about or is $1000 (or more) per annum? I don’t like to wonder these things, I like to know with certainty so I put together a spreadsheet to multiply a given daily interest rate (or part thereof) by a specified amount for a specific timeframe (i.e. 30 days, 1 year, 2 years, etc).

Working off a principal amount of $500,000 (let’s call that the national medium house price, roughly speaking), I was surprised at the results.

For example, let’s say I’m comparing two loan products with an interest rate of 4% and 4.5% p.a. respectively. How much does that extra 0.5% cost per year? From my table (below), intersect the 0.5% column and the 365 (days) row and you can see the answer is $2,500. That’s a lot of money to unburden yourself of every year for no benefit. If you’re capitalising that charge it’s also going to compound in the bank’s favour!

The table shows two sets of columns. The first set with the dark headings shows part percentages up to 1%; the right-most columns with the lighter shading show a range of current rates, increasing at 0.5% intervals.

Have a look and compare the rates on your loans and then talk to your bank—or refinance if you have to (talk to a mortgage broker).

Click the image to see a a full-size version of the table.

I suppose a disclaimer is also worth posting: I'm just a guy, I'm not an accountant, lawyer, solicitor, tax agent, mortgage broker, banker, financial adviser, insurance agent, land developer, builder, government agent, or anything else so I disclaim your application of anything I write here is to be applied at your own risk. What I write may be incorrect and you are best to seek your own professional advice (tax, legal, financial, and otherwise) before entering into contracts or spending your money. Your situation is unique to you and what I write here reflects my experience only. This content is not professional advice and is not tailored to your situation. I’m not selling anything and I do not receive any form of commission or incentive payments for any companies or individuals I endorse. I'm learning too and expect to make many, many mistakes along the way.

Enjoy,

Michael

40 – Short Valuation

It’s just one problem after another with the finance application for the second investment property.

Most recently, the valuation ordered by the bank came back under the contract price (short), specifically citing a discrepancy between the construction price and comparable build costs of around $35k. Annoyingly, the replacement value (which might be used when nominating an insured amount, for example) is noted as being above the contract price.

Our mortgage broker asked me to take this up with Open Corp, who note several points when it comes to valuations:

• No two valuers will value a property at the same price. The valuation comes down to the valuer’s experience, knowledge of the area, and subjective interpretation of comparable sales and the area’s price point. Of course, the valuer is attempting to (efficiently) compare houses on different streets, of different designs, built of different materials in different eras, and in a changing market—this isn’t apples and apples stuff.
• The properties we buy from Open Corp are full turn-key house and land packages, constructed as investment properties (i.e. to house tenants). The internal finishes are of a high quality to attract tenants and because they’re often hard-wearing. The house is 100% complete and includes landscaping, fencing, washing line, letter box, etc. I previously questioned Michael Beresford from Open Corp on the cost difference between the standard house and land packages for sale on realestate.com.au and the properties in the same development being sold by Open Corp and he made the same point in the context of that conversation.

Open Corp supplied me with a valuation for a similar, smaller property in the same area which did come back at the contract price. As plan A, I asked Mortgage Choice to submit this alternate valuation to the bank, requesting it be substituted for the original. This would in part be a test of the mortgage broker’s relationship with the bank but would more likely come down to the individual personalities at the bank’s end—more subjectivity—and in conjunction with whatever risk algorithms they apply.

Perhaps not unsurprisingly, the bank was unwilling to accept the alternate valuation and our mortgage broker subsequently took up the matter with the original valuer and and their minder, Valex (the valuation panel through which valuations are ordered by lenders). I have no experience contesting a valuation but understand it’s often a difficult proposition. The finer points seem to hinge on the comparability of the ‘comparable sales’ cited in the valuation—in other words, suggesting our build is comparable but at the higher end of the spectrum. As anticipated, the valuer (Peter Jones from Lee Property) wouldn’t budge and was apparently quite direct with our mortgage broker on this point.

In the meantime, Mortgage Choice ordered an independent valuation through another lender, giving us the option to supply that valuation to the original lender or proceed with finance through the second lender. This valuation came back at the contract price but was also not accepted by the first bank. Interestingly, many of the comparable sales cited for this valuation were in the same development whereas the comparable sales in the original valuation were from further afield.

Our last option was to challenge the valuation with the bank directly but that was equally unsuccessful.

In order to secure any form of financing from this application, we made the decision to reduce the loan amount (aligning to the original valuation) with the difference contributed from our line of credit (at a slightly higher interest rate and with the added risk of the increased LOC balance being secured by our PPOR).

This would have done the trick if I had a current pay slip for the bank—which I don’t because I was unexpectedly stood down by the firm I was contracting for earlier in the year when their pipeline of work dried up. Of course the wife’s still on maternity leave and won’t be back to work for another few months and the bank won’t accept her signed contract in place of a pay slip. Of course this also makes applying for finance through another lender a tricky proposition.

What a saga.

Finance is due in four days, on Friday. Mortgage Choice have recommended we request a finance extension from the vendor until wifey is back to work. Open Corp have suggested this may be an option because the land titles haven’t yet registered—but will be dependent on a conversation with and the goodwill of the vendor.

If this plan works out, maybe enough time will have elapsed for the bank to order a new valuation. Ha!

I suppose a disclaimer is also worth posting: I'm just a guy, I'm not an accountant, lawyer, solicitor, tax agent, mortgage broker, banker, financial adviser, insurance agent, land developer, builder, government agent, or anything else so I disclaim your application of anything I write here is to be applied at your own risk. What I write may be incorrect and you are best to seek your own professional advice (tax, legal, financial, and otherwise) before entering into contracts or spending your money. Your situation is unique to you and what I write here reflects my experience only. This content is not professional advice and is not tailored to your situation. I'm learning too and expect to make many, many mistakes along the way.

Enjoy,

Michael

39 – Gazumped

I’ve mentioned a few times on this blog how smoothly everything went with the first investment property. From land and build contracts, to finance, to construction, and tenanting it was one tick in the box after another. When we set about repeating the process with Open Corp, I expected an identical outcome, this time with the benefit of personal experience.

Through no fault of Open Corp’s, we’ve had a rocky start this time. Our finance pre-approval, with me only recently back to work and the wife on maternity leave, was heavily scrutinised by the bank and was finally approved in mid-December—valid for three months, including the Christmas holidays. Dear wife then took her time finally agreeing to the commitment before we gave Open Corp the green light.

More recently, with our pre-approval due to expire within a week, I received a call from Open Corp telling us a larger buyer had come in and offered to purchase all remaining blocks in the development we were to buy in to—including all blocks with non-executed contracts. We’d signed the contract but it hadn’t yet been fully executed (signed) by the vendor. I’m not sure if it applies in the fullest sense to this specific situation, but I think we were gazumped.

Open Corp were helpfully able to secure another, larger block for us in a neighbouring estate (at a higher cost due to the increased land size—with the difference to be rebated back to us). They also had our initial deposit refunded from the original land developer and applied to this new property. The stamp duty will be about a thousand dollars more because of the increased sale price but I’m comfortable with that seeing as how we’ll be getting an extra 48sqm at minimal cost.

Given the timelines for the finance pre-approval, we were able to nominate Open Corp to sign the land and build contracts on our behalf (the property is in Victoria) and the mortgage broker was able to submit our finance application on the last day of our pre-approval… still without an executed land contract.

Land contracts just aren’t working out for us this time around. It’s now been two weeks since the final finance application was submitted and we’re still waiting on the executed land contract. I have no idea what the hold up is this time and apparently neither do Open Corp but it’s all slightly concerning—especially coming from where we’ve been with the first block. Will the same thing happen with the unexecuted contract being sold to a bulk purchaser? Is whoever does the signing at the vendor’s end out of town? In other words, what’s going on?!?

[Update (6 April): the signed land contracts finally came back late last week, which of course starts the clock ticking for the finance approval…]

Meanwhile, the bank seems to be moving the application forward without this seemingly important document and have ordered a valuation on the property and requested a few extra pieces of documentation from us. I have no experience how flexible the major banks are with the deadlines for their pre-approvals and I’d be very curious to know what happens next if this purchase falls over on the land contract.

All of this is unnerving and frustrating but we’ve never had any major issues buying or securing finance for our PPOR or the first IP and I’m hoping this will come good. I know finance is often the biggest hurdle for many buyers and it was certainly a relief to move forward from the point of unconditional finance approval with the first IP.

Compounding matters, the bank (a different lender to the one we used for the first IP—to avoid cross-collateralising) has flagged a possible issue approving a 10% LMI discount for us. Certain professionals are eligible to pay a 10% deposit instead on the typical 20% deposit before LMI kicks in and the wife, being a doctor, falls into that category of professional. The only problem from the bank’s perspective is the fact she’s not working… or more precisely, as I’d describe it: she’s on leave (maternity leave)—and she is therefore still employed. Unfortunately she has no current pay stubs to prove that to the bank and we’re waiting on a letter from her employer in the hope the bank will accept that.

I hope we’ll have a better view of both the land contract and the finance situation this next (short) week but I won’t bet on it.

I suppose a disclaimer is also worth posting: I'm just a guy, I'm not an accountant, lawyer, solicitor, tax agent, mortgage broker, banker, financial adviser, insurance agent, land developer, builder, government agent, or anything else so I disclaim your application of anything I write here is to be applied at your own risk. What I write may be incorrect and you are best to seek your own professional advice (tax, legal, financial, and otherwise) before entering into contracts or spending your money. Your situation is unique to you and what I write here reflects my experience only. This content is not professional advice and is not tailored to your situation. I'm learning too and expect to make many, many mistakes along the way.

Enjoy,

Michael